Category: Writers Block
Solace in Satan
O Satan, I sing to thee, Father of my soul!
Beautiful, majestic King, enthroned in royal splendor! Clothed in robes of the purest blue, crowned with the diadem of the serpent!
Hell’s sovereign, O glorious Emperor in shining palace of ebon stone. May I walk with thee a while, and gain some of thy great wisdom?
O great, Rainbow Lord, who shineth like the mid-day sun, I magnify thy glorious name! Thou art the true comforter.
An odd perspective on the father of lies, but decently written. The switching between formal and modern english is a bit jarring however.
He is not the damn father of lies! I get so tired of hearing that!
If not the father of lies, then who?
The Lord of light and dark, King of all. In all my years of knowing him, Satan/Enki has never lied to me.
Well, it's said he's a master of his craft. Able to entreat with just enough truth to be extremely convincing, but enough falsehood to deceive . I can't honestly say there haven't een followers of God who haven't bent his word to serve their own ambitions though. Obviously you've found security in what he offers, though your profile seems somewhat at odds with your writing.:) The way I figure it, either he's the most misunderstood being in human history, or the most deceptive. If he's misunderstood, I wonder how so many different faiths got his truth so wrong? I don't mean to offend or instill anger.I've never met an actual Satanist before. All I have to go on is what my own religion teaches about him and his origins, and unfortunately what the media portrays. Unfortunately the media often gets most things wrong. So who knows.
Well, I know. I have felt his presence many times, and it is beauty and peace. He is very misunderstood, and think about it. It's always his enemies that slander and lie about him. They slander him because they fear him. And they fear him because he offers freedom and truth.
My profile is at odds with my writing style? What's that mean? When I'm normally writing, I don't try and be poetic. That'd be kinda stupid, wouldn't it?
All I mean by that is your writing is extremely dark (and in many cases rather violent) I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. But your profile seems to reflect something different. Perhaps I'm just reading into things.
Oh, I getcha. I don't like overzealous, bigoted christians. That's all. I've got christian friends; don't get me wrong. I just hate the damned preachers, and even just the normal 'layman' christians, who shove their beliefs down my throat and don't take no for an answer. So yeah...that's why some of my writing reflects that. For the most part, I'm pretty sanguine. The uber christians just piss me off, and I'm not shy about it.
Yeah. I used to be like that too. There are those who certainly make being a Christian extremely difficult. So having an anti-belief must be even worse.
Your way of life is totally fucked up
We all choose our own way of life. God gives us free will to follow him or not. It is not our place to judge.
God? Or satan? that's his deal. He's too involved in the dark side to see god's grace
First, this writer is a girl. Second, this is a place to workshop and discuss writing. Third, while having a proclaimed satanist on the boards might rub people the wrong way, it's no worse than some of the crap that goes on around here. If it's permicible to talk about how and where you like to be screwed, by how many people on a public quicknote chat, then certainly a poem about the prince of Darkness is hardly worse. There are way more disturbing poems and stories on this forum. At least the poem makes sense.:)
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Makes sence? Hardly; satanism is much worse than talking about sex in public.
My way of life? Sir, you know nothing about my way of life. Do I go round killing animals? Do I go round breaking the law? No. Who are you to judge me, when you do not know me? I want nothing to do with your god. I never did and never will. You call Enki dark, because you do not know him, and you fear him. Thus proving my point. It is you who walk in darkness.
Razeem, I don't believe Leo meant that it makes sense in a spiritual kind of way. Even if he did, that's his opinion. The author has the right to express what she believes, and even if people don't agree with it, they are hers and they are real. I personally don't agree with this...actually, I am a Christian. And P.S. the "uber Christians" drive me nuts as well! And I might be wrong, but I believe your comments, Razeem, are part of the reason she's so embittered...by judgment. Again, just because I disagree with this doesn't mean that I'm not going to disrespect her, because...the last time I checked, she was still a person!
You are absolutely right, Bethany! I do not like christianity for that exact reason. I didn't dedicate my soul to Satan out of bitterness; quite the opposite in fact. But now that I am with him, I am, at least, finding out who my true friends are. Lol. You don't have to like me, or what I am, Razeem; but you will respect me! For I am a human being, the same as you.
To be fair, The Blind Guardian and LeoGuardian are two different people.
I don't know where his username comes from, mine comes from a combination of my middle name plus Guardian, aka member of the United States Coast Guard. The Blind Guardian is a writing critic on here. Me, I just tend to ramble too much probably.
look to the light...
There's nothing more frustrating than a self-righteous Christian who can't see past a fellow human being's disbelief in their God. I am a Christian of the restored gospel -- rather an anomaly among mainstream Christianity. I may not agree with Hell's Child's perception of Satan, though if Half of what I think I understand about Satan is true, I can understand it. Yet I can not in good conscience condemn Hell's Child for her beliefs. They obviously matter to her in a way you and I do not understand, just as Jesus Christ, I assume, matters to you. You do ot know her, and yet you judge her. Your quick judgments, Razeem are your perogative, but that closed-minded inability to attempt to understand another embodies some of the very reasons some people dislike religion. The God we both believe in would not turn his back on anothr. Why should we?
excuse me, sir, but I am not Christian.
Ugh, religion. Just admit you're all atheists, (cuz you are), and hate each other on grounds that are based in something other than the fact you read different books.
Sorry Razem, you spoke as though you were. Doesn't change your propencity to raise contention however.
Lighting....Athists? Really? Not everyone hates religion as much as you do. Just saying.
and, not everyone loves religion as much as you do. just saying.
You don't have to hate religion to be an atheist, you just have to not believe in a god. Do you believe zeus is real, or athena, or ramses, or thor, or oden, or allah, or vishnu? If you think that there is one god out of the entire pantheon of deities which exist and have existed through the centuries of the history of mankind which is not real, your an atheist.
Since I'm quite sure you believe all other gods accept the one you believe in are nonexistent, you are an atheist thousands of times over. you are only one step lower on the atheist chart than I am. How does it feel?
You're kidding, right? No. I refuse to get into yet another pointless religious debate with you lightning. Especially on a post whose subjec matter is being vastly ignored in lew of pointless contention and apparently irreconcilable philosophical differences. This is a writer's board. It's here for people to post "actual" feedback. The least you could do is have the courtacy to comment on the initial purpose of this post before raising the same tired arguments. You don't agree with religion. We get it. It's unfortunate that something like this is the cause of such a high number of posts on a writing topic. People will argue about anything it sems, but ask them to read creative writing? Nooooo.
Oh I've told her what I think of her poetry before. I'm not going to fill up this board with pointless posts that just say, "good poem" over and over again. That's boring.
I am, however, perfectly willing to present the other half of an argument whenever self-righteous religious people try to criticize her subject matter. Even, and perhaps most especially, in an offhanded way like you did. Your oh so willing to tell others how they shouldn't blatantly put down other's religious beliefs, but you couldn't resist the temptation to describe how you obviously don't agree with them. Why couldn't you have simply said, "That's wrong, you shouldn't put down other's religious beliefs". why do you have to bring your own beliefs, or difference thereof, into the conversation? And yet you get angry when I do it to you.
Okay, perhaps you're right on that one. In this case however I was making a point. You don't have to share the same beliefs to be respectful. You saying we should all embrace atheism because we're all atheists just seems ... well, rather unlike your usual thought-out rebuttle.
I didn't say embrace atheism, I said admit your atheism and debate something else besides whose book is better.
who was the first one who brought up the fact that the poem was about a subject which was decidedly ungodly, (sorry HC, couldn't think of a better word here)? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't an atheist. Who said she should find the light? Again, it wasn't an atheist.
My point was that it seems that it is practically if not physically impossible for religious people to accept something for what it is, they always have to look at the religious side of it. Rock and roll can't just be music you don't like, it has to be a message from the devil. Art that has an upside down cross in it can't just be stupid modern art, it has to be anti-christian and inflamatory. Sex can't just be a pleasurable physical interaction between two people in a private setting, it has to be dragged out, legalized, raked over the coals and turned into a sin several times over.
Why couldn't the person who said that she should see the light simply look at this poem and see a work of art? why can't he see the beauty in her prose, the talent in her work. Why does he have to see only the fact that its about worshipping satan, and suddenly its trash to him?
I'm sick and tired of people who lead religious lives who can't let the rest of us see something beautiful and accept it as it is. I'm sick and tired of not being able to walk outside and comment on what a lovely day it is, without having someone spout on about how God has blessed us with it. But what I'm most sick and tired of is people who suddenly become childishly defensive when I or anyone else present a point or an idea or a way of life that is contrary to their own.
If your going to put your religious beliefs out there for the world to see, and your going to be proud of them, you forfeit your right to complain and whine when someone disagrees with them and points out their flause.
Well we can agree on much of that. Though I can't agree with your sentament that we're all atheists just because we don't believe in all god.
If you don't believe in a god, you are an atheist in regards to that god. You don't believe allah is god, so you are an atheist as far as islam is concerned. Its a simple chain of logic. That is why we have that saying, "I contend we are both atheist, I just believe in one less god than you do".
If anything that makes me agnaustic.
No, agnostic is intellect based. It is an assurance based on logical and observable evidence which indicates it is impossible to know whether there is or is not a god. I personally subscribe to the idea that agnostics in a pure form do not exist, that they lean toward one side of the scale or the other, (that being atheism or theism).
You are a morman, if my memory serves, and that means that you do not believe in allah, or zeus. if you did, you would be a muslim, or a helenistic polytheist, not a morman. Thus, because you do not believe, with all the furver with which you believe that your god is real, you are an atheist in regards to allah or zeus. I simply take that one step further and claim that it makes little sense to say that thousands of gods don't exist, but that one does. I see no evidence for god, and I feel no presence of god. Thus on a faith and intellectual basis, I am an atheist for all gods.
You, I assume, do not see any evidence for thor, and feel no presence of thor, you do not believe you share a deep set communion with thor, and thus you don't believe he exists. If you do not believe a god exists, you are an atheist. if you don't believe it is possible for us to know if a god exists, and admit there there is equal amount of probability for thor existing as allah existing, or God (note the capitol), then you are an agnostic. As I highly doubt you believe that it is possible for thor, or ra, or athena to exist, you aren't an agnostic.
On a side note, I really wish people would learn what the real definition of these terms are, and not even atheist and agnostic. I wish more people knew what the word theist meant, or deist, or antitheist. It would save a lot of time for me to not have to explain what the difference between an atheist and an agnostic is, or what the difference between a theist and a deist is.
First of all, why are we having this debate in a category made to critique creative writing? Second, this is just a side note, I find it funny how people call themselves atheists, because they don't believe there is a God, or gods, and yet you fight so passionately against it. If you don't believe, why get so heated up trying to attack something that you don't believe in? After all, it isn't real, so why do you snatch every opportunity you get to attack something that does not exist.. such as jumping on every single topic where religion is even mentioned? What is the necessity to spend so much time trying to prove something you don't even believe in and go out of your way to spout accusations at people who believe?Why do atheists lobby against religion and hold huge conventions just to talk about something nonexistent? Why not protest and fight tooth and nail with people who believe in Santa Claus or the Easter bunny? Because those are obviously not real.
why continuously bring up our atheism in topics that are religion oriented? cause, as has been said a gazillion times, we feel it's incredibly detremental to society.
others have the right to speak against us, and we, too, have the right to freely express being against those who believe in a higher power. quite frankly, we won't stop doing so just cause most people think our outspokenness is wrong.
Well, anyway, as I stated before, this is way outside the subject here. I don't believe anyone said you didn't have a right to your opinions.
Hell's Child, I like your writing style even though I both disagree with those beliefs and suck terribly at poetry.
Ave Satanas!
Thank you, Music Girl.
Lightning.....okay. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that whole athism/agnaustic bit.
Agnostic, not agnaustic.
Whilst the majority of the mainstream religions are a detriment to society, at least Spiritual Satanism is practical. Lol. We're just sitting around praising Satan, though we do so because he is deserving of it. The true purpose of Spiritual Satanism is to elevate and transcend oneself, to become spiritually enlightened and powerful. Father Enki/Satan does not wish us to be dependent on him; rather, he desires that we become self-reliant, and to be able to take our destinies into our own hands. Now how, may I ask, is that detrimental to society?
All right. I have said my peace, and I shall say no more here. Agios O Satanas!
Whoops. We don't just sit around praising him. Lol. Fun with typos!